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Inception
I embedded this course within my FH Fox run. At the intersection overseen by the majestic ancient oak on the hill, I noted the elapsed time for FH Fox and then began this course from there. After finishing, I noted the time again and continued with my FH Fox run. It is possible to embed at least a couple more layers deep with the Cornell courses… maybe next time if I carry paper and pencil with me.
I was running in the grass alongside the road on the downhill that heads towards the gate and the original starting sign. There were a lot of small branches in the grass, except this was not a branch:
As much as I appreciate the hacking mentality of embedding one course within another, I’ve already disallowed it, for the simple reason that it lets people double-dip on distance for Most Miles. You’ve only covered the ground once, so submitting two courses for one run would mean that you didn’t run everything the results say you did. Here’s a link to the rules with the change. Sorry!
Adam, it looks like you misunderstood what I did, or else I didn’t communicate it well. It never even entered my mind to double-dip on miles. I’m surprised that even needs a rule.
I started the FH Fox Course. At a point where the courses overlapped and there was a convenient landmark, such as an intersection, I paused counting FH Fox miles and ran the complete Cornell Botanic Gardens course back to my selected landmark. At this point I started counting FH Fox miles again as I continued running to complete that full course. None of my miles were counted twice. Where the courses overlapped, I ran that distance twice.
It is similar, for example, to running a Sweet 1600 on the Lansing track in the midst of doing the Ludlowville Loop. I recognize those two courses do not overlap at all, though. I’m fine with refraining from spaghetti course runs like this if you want to keep things simpler.
@dennis-s I’ve been thinking of ways to complete as many different courses as possible in a single run. The best I’ve come up with so far: Start at the arboretum entrance and run all three courses that start there — Cornell Scenic Circuit, Beebe Lake, and Botanical Gardens. Then run the Fall Creek Trails loop starting from the arboretum entrance, with a one-mile side quest on the Cornell horse track (2 loops). Next, head up the Arboretum Road hill to intersect the FH Fox loop and run that one. From the arboretum gate, it’s a mile to the west end of the East Hill Rec Way. Head over there and run the East Hill Rec Way course (twice), followed by the East Hill Dryden Rail Trail, then back to the car. It’s about 35 miles total, 32.4 of which is Challenge eligible, covering 8 of the 44 Challenge courses.
Must be ultra minds that think this way. Town&Gown and the new Sights of the Heights are easily added to the mix, as well as Pseudo Skunk, Triple Hump, and Ellis Hollow Creek Crossings, though most of these are pavement. Pseudo Skunk comes close to the Brooktondale courses and Town & Gown is close to Waterfront Trail, then leading to Black Diamond and the courses out in Trumansburg. Really a lot of options to just park the car and run for hours… or days, if you like mostly pavement
My mistake, probably because the question about overlapping courses (like East Hill Rec Way and East Hill Dryden Rail Trail) had just come up separately. Thanks for clarifying, and yes, linking multiple independent courses like that is totally fine (and a lovely mental challenge)!
Also, any course that goes around Beebe Lake nearly touches this year’s Sights of the Heights course (on purpose), as well as Cornell Scenic Circuit and Town and Town & Gown Up and Down (though those courses are not trail courses)
