Lick Brook & Treman FLT Star Posts (2026)

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This is a fun and challenging route and a great way to start off Fathers Day. I knocked it out early so I’d have plenty of family time the rest of the day. It’s hard to believe I’m only the second person to run it this year. The NewCount was a paltry 7 but I wasn’t looking closely, just moving along in cruise control for most of this.

I ran the west leg first and turned around at Hines Road because I wasn’t sure exactly where the turnaround is. That last little bit of trail was rerouted off of private property since this course debuted in ‘22. I think the distance is the same. I measured 14.07 miles today, which is about what I always got on the 2022 version.

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On being the Tortoise

it seemed like a good idea on paper - since I was going to be down in that neck of the woods to help time the Tortoise & Hare race, why not tackle this first? Weather was perfect (cool so no bugs and no heat issues), trails would be in great shape (very dry), sunrise was early - and given my other two attempts at this course, starting shortly after 5 am would allow plenty of time before volunteering shift.

Arrogance, thy name is “Bob”

I got off to a good start - my preparation the night before was spot on, and I actually stalled a bit at the start to let it get a little lighter. I set off at a nice pace, thinking it about the same 14:30 ish pace from last time. Until my watch reported “16:57”…what!!! Later, I discovered that the watch must have been having GPS issues, because it really was better than that (see Strava link) , but that set the tone of the run. I kept to the plan, hiking when needed, and taking a hit of hydration every 8 minutes, and listening to the RunGo directions. One thing nice about going slow - it is hard to miss turns! I kept chugging along, startling the odd deer and rabbit, until I got to the end of the Treman portion…RunGo was telling me to turn around, but it looked nothing like the picture I had on the phone from the original directions. So, I took my best guess - and a photo - and sucked down a gel and headed back. (Later learned that the trail apparently has been redone in that section and RunGo directions need to be updated accordingly). It was on the return that I finally got a sub 16:00 minute pace report from the watch…in fact, got several of them in a row, as I worked my way back down to the start. The day was heating up and I could hear the bugs starting to swarm - I felt bad for the solo hiker working their way up the hill as I came down.

I was somewhat heartened by the fact I got back to the start/finish at a fairly consistent albeit slow pace - but there was still Lickbrook to tackle. So I had another gel and kept on chugging. I made NO attempt to run up the switchbacks, and continued hiking until I got to the Buttermilk Falls spur, where I finally made some semblance of running. Just as I started, I encountered a dog walker who turned out to be an acquaintance from years ago but I knew if I stopped to chat I was done. So I keep staggering on, past the yurts - where at least 1 group was stirring - and up to the West King Road turnaround, where I finally began to believe I could make it. I carefully picked my way down - I nearly tripped on a stump, the bane of my existence, but caught myself in time. I wasn’t running very fast, but I did have a hiker coming up the trail pause to let me go by - guess I was scary enough even at that speed! I picked my way down the switchbacks - my knees weren’t going to let me run it - stopping to snap a picture of the sorta Falls (not a lot of water!) Once back on the flat, I staggered past 2 more hikers on my way back to the car. I finally took a misstep, following the FLT to the stream crossing - but I doubled back to the cutoff for the train bridge. I think the Treman Trailapop directions were clearer on that intersection, as these directions only mentioned the bridge on the way out.

Once back at the car, well past the start of my shift, I jumped in and headed out, thinking briefly that:

  • I did finish;
  • I didn’t fall (though 2 stumps tried their best)
  • I only had 1 known bug bite (when I was walking up Lickbrook)
  • and I undoubtedly had the slowest time yet for this trail - so someone would be happy!

Going to need some serious recovery time…

Strava activity

patchy fog at start

Treman turnaround

Lickbrook Falls (sorta)

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I think I’ve updated the RunGo directions with the Hines Road turnaround now. It should have have details about returning across the railroad bridge as well, though of course we don’t officially recommend that. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the quick update! Certainly going out to Hines Road will add an extra couple tenths of a mile to the total distance but it will end all issues about where to turn around

And interestingly, enough, when I followed the Fnger Lakes trail blazes down to the stream, it wasn’t obvious where to cross - I couldn’t see where it came out on the other side. I’m beginning to suspect a lot of FLT folks are using the bridge too. Unofficially, of course.:grin:

It feels so good to cross the stream! Unfortunately, the short section between the stream and where it intersects the dry crossing trail was nearly overgrown with tall grasses earlier this spring.

Great adventure, Bob! Tripping but not falling is a benefit of going slow.

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The Invisible Mile
(As mentioned in my NCH post, I would advise tick repellent for this course, too.)
After some watermelon and Mountain Dew and rest at the car after the North Country Half, I decided to head out on this course.Started off in the Lick Brook direction so that I could soak my feet in the creek. Good news is the path for the ‘official’ trail crossing is mowed on the far side of the creek and not too bad on the near side.


Bad news is the water is only ankle deep at best there now, so only a foot soak and some splash!

After returning to the car and downing more watermelon and Dew, I headed off for the second ‘half’ of the course. Early on I spied two big fungi that I had missed earlier - could be I was busy watching for more snakes then. I’d say these are at least 10" across.


Used RunGo so I wouldn’t miss the turn around, except the turn around is at Hines Road, which adds an extra mile to the half marathon. I’m ok with that extra, invisible mile on a warm day but I could have shut off RunGo Rachel if I’d studied the course map more in advance.

I was still moving steady and pretty well after the turn around, just slower. The warmth and humidity and the hills had taken a little toll. Upon finishing at the car, I polished off the rest of my watermelon and my last Dew. Then, of course, the day was completed with…


Chocolate Raspberry Truffle!

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You could have detoured slightly off the course mid-run to Dennis’ Homemade Ice Cream on Route 13! There’s a short spur trail off the FLT (on your left when heading west from the underpass) and from what I remember, the trail is marked with ice cream cone markers on the trees so it’s easy to spot.

Always the preferred choice, but on MTW they are closed.