@bobtalda Wow, 60! You are creeping up there but I stay ahead of you. Anway, I think Skunk would be somewhat comparable to NYC in terms of total hills (the two bridges in NYC are pretty long climbs, and there is Central Park). Is the turnaround dot on Stevenson still marked? I biked there yesterday and I think it has been resurfaced. But you may know it from the landmarks along the road.